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| * gatotsu2501: Sometimes I wonder whether one day, evolved humans or super-intelligent aliens will unearth and play //Killer7//, and the whole thing will make perfect sense to them. Until that day, it will continue to be a breathtakingly ambitious clusterfuck of a game that falls JUST short of making any sense at all, but god damn if it isn't one hell of a ride, worth even putting up with the middling gameplay at least once. Can anyone who knows Japanese tell me if the JP subtitle script is as obtuse and impenetrable as the English dialogue? | * gatotsu2501: Sometimes I wonder whether one day, evolved humans or super-intelligent aliens will unearth and play //Killer7//, and the whole thing will make perfect sense to them. Until that day, it will continue to be a breathtakingly ambitious clusterfuck of a game that falls JUST short of making any sense at all, but god damn if it isn't one hell of a ride, worth even putting up with the middling gameplay at least once. Can anyone who knows Japanese tell me if the JP subtitle script is as obtuse and impenetrable as the English dialogue? | ||
| * shnozlak: this game feels so fair and so well executed even someone who thinks they are terrible at shooters can grow to love it. | * shnozlak: this game feels so fair and so well executed even someone who thinks they are terrible at shooters can grow to love it. | ||
| - | * Tony: the confusing way the plot is presented (and, perhaps, its nature and what Suda51 wants to tell us here) makes it not nearly as engaging as that of Silver Case (or its follow-up, 25th Ward). There are some humor and attempts to make meta-jokes and satire, but all is confusing, half-accomplished. The action is boring and repetitive. Diying is a chore because redoing sections of the game is not fun. The loop of finding objects to proceed is repetitive too. In my opinion, a mediocre game with some occasionally original ways of attempting to break the forth wall, which for some have been enough to make it a cult, oversold as a great game. More interesting as a prototypal study, rather than something to play. The aesthetics are interesting for a while and the soundtrack is nice (albeit there is not much variety, and Silver Case and its sequel have much better ones). | + | * Tony: the confusing way the plot is presented (and, perhaps, its nature and what Suda51 wants to tell) makes it not nearly as engaging as those of Silver Case and its follow-up, 25th Ward. There are humor and attempts to make meta-jokes and satire, although the latters feel confusing, half-accomplished. The action is boring and repetitive. Diying is a chore because redoing sections of the game is not fun. The loop of finding objects to proceed is repetitive too. In my opinion, a mediocre game (oversold as great) with some explosive attempts to break the forth wall, which for some have been enough to make it a cult. More interesting as a prototypal study, rather than something to play. The aesthetics are interesting for a while and the soundtrack is nice (albeit there is not much variety, and Silver Case and its sequel have much better ones). |
| ***//Kirby Air Ride//** | ***//Kirby Air Ride//** | ||
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| * gatotsu2501: Takes everything that was good about //[[game:Paper Mario]]// and makes it even better. That's actually just about all there is to say about it, other than commending it on a superb localization and chuckle-worthy script, one which, like a good cartoon, expertly manages to be goofy, sweet and self-aware without becoming infantile, cloying or obnoxious. The best of the Mario RPGs, and on my shortlist of favorite JRPGs of all time. | * gatotsu2501: Takes everything that was good about //[[game:Paper Mario]]// and makes it even better. That's actually just about all there is to say about it, other than commending it on a superb localization and chuckle-worthy script, one which, like a good cartoon, expertly manages to be goofy, sweet and self-aware without becoming infantile, cloying or obnoxious. The best of the Mario RPGs, and on my shortlist of favorite JRPGs of all time. | ||
| * Felix: Couldn't say it better. Particularly considering that every [[paper_mario_series|Mario RPG]] that came after it was utter dreck, this game is genuinely charming and I wish it could take some more credit despite the fact that all of the groundwork was laid by the first game. I get the sense that it's not that well known to people who thought the original //[[game:Paper Mario]]// was neat enough, which is a damn shame. That said, it is overly facile in the way that Nintendo sometimes tends to be; neither the puzzles nor the combat exactly require a lot of forethought. | * Felix: Couldn't say it better. Particularly considering that every [[paper_mario_series|Mario RPG]] that came after it was utter dreck, this game is genuinely charming and I wish it could take some more credit despite the fact that all of the groundwork was laid by the first game. I get the sense that it's not that well known to people who thought the original //[[game:Paper Mario]]// was neat enough, which is a damn shame. That said, it is overly facile in the way that Nintendo sometimes tends to be; neither the puzzles nor the combat exactly require a lot of forethought. | ||
| + | * To give a different point of view: I think it's too simplistic in tone and story telling. It does not have the “nintendo charm” that some older Zeldas, for example, have. I don’t really have a motivation in proceeding after the first world. Dynamics are not interesting, atmosphere and graphics are neither. This is after 4 hours in. This might be an example of kid's game, where the sense of wonder, as well as the appreciation of cuteness, are enough to make you continue with joy, while many expectations have not been constituted. | ||
| ***//Pikmin//** | ***//Pikmin//** | ||